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frpe82 02-28-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mojam (Post 1653638)
But, how do I get my hands on one of these M90. None is available in my area.

In Europe.

And no, I can't send you one because of the high price of shipping from Sweden.

Try one of the UK guys.

volvorsport 03-02-2008 07:30 PM

correct orientation of the flywheel .

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mj.slater2/101_0125.JPG

Jerd 03-04-2008 02:47 PM

"Mounting the M90 in a 200-series car:"

Waits patiently :-D

frpe82 03-04-2008 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VolvoSporter (Post 1664988)
"Mounting the M90 in a 200-series car:"

Waits patiently :-D

It will come this spring or summer.

JW240 03-04-2008 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VolvoSporter (Post 1664988)
"Mounting the M90 in a 200-series car:"

Waits patiently :-D

continues with letting other ppl wait hahaha (M90+ stuff sourced, time is lacking) ;-)
There are other ppl who have done it before though.. http://www.volvoturbo.net/Garagebilder%2023.html
http://www.volvoturbo.net

Captain Bondo 03-15-2008 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JW240 (Post 1665044)
continues with letting other ppl wait hahaha (M90+ stuff sourced, time is lacking) ;-)
There are other ppl who have done it before though.. http://www.volvoturbo.net/Garagebilder%2023.html
http://www.volvoturbo.net

There's really not much to it.

Shorten the shift linkage.

Get a the driveshaft lengthened.

Sort out a hydraulic clutch.

transmission mount.

done.

Mine went pretty easy. There's no snout on the input shaft so there is no pilot bearing to worry about, etc.

Wagner 03-15-2008 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Bondo (Post 1683330)
Shorten the shift linkage.

Get a the driveshaft lengthened.

Sort out a hydraulic clutch.

transmission mount.

Also, if you're putting one in a car that is pre 1986 you will either need to change the rear differential carrier to one from a 1986 car and onwards and use the electronic speedometer from the same car.

You can naturally use the whole rear axle as well.

Or you can do something custom. The point being that the M90 does not have a cable drive for a speedometer.

RobSmith 03-15-2008 07:14 PM

It doesn't have an oil drain plug either so change the oil before you put it in the car.
I have been reliably informed by...(er I forget) that it needs to be the special Volvo oil for the M90 gearbox and an accurately measured volume of it too.
I do not know how much is in mine but without standing the car on end or taking the gearbox out it is difficult to find out.

Rob

Fivehundred 03-15-2008 08:39 PM

Err, what makes you think that? The M90 has both a filler and a drain plug. Both are on the rear side of the box. Something like a 22mm hex head from memory.


Quote:

Originally Posted by RobSmith (Post 1683662)
It doesn't have an oil drain plug either so change the oil before you put it in the car.
I have been reliably informed by...(er I forget) that it needs to be the special Volvo oil for the M90 gearbox and an accurately measured volume of it too.
I do not know how much is in mine but without standing the car on end or taking the gearbox out it is difficult to find out.

Rob


frpe82 03-15-2008 10:57 PM

Some updates made regarding oil and the reverse light switch.

RobSmith 03-16-2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fivehundred (Post 1683750)
Err, what makes you think that? The M90 has both a filler and a drain plug. Both are on the rear side of the box. Something like a 22mm hex head from memory.

Hmm. Ok.
I will have a look again but I could only see one plug about half way up the back of the box.
I must admit I did not jack the car up to have a good look. I crawled under it and had a focusing range of about 2 inches and my nose up against it.
It is late here now so I will look tommorow.

Rob

volvorsport 03-16-2008 08:11 PM

yeah , there is two !

ive just put mine in the car today without any oil and a new rear seal , i wouldnt have done that without filling it up .

http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=128605

Captain Bondo 03-17-2008 03:58 PM

I can confirm that mine has a drain and a fill plug. :e-shrug:

Mine is an M90H FWIW

CaffeineSam 06-06-2008 05:32 PM

Can you tell me anything about the M90 that was fitted on diesel engines ?

frpe82 06-06-2008 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NativeJesus (Post 1827594)
Can you tell me anything about the M90 that was fitted on diesel engines ?

Yeah. The diesel engines had the same gearboxes as the B230FT/FK of the same year. There is nothing different.

They did however favour the taller gearings available.

Did that answer your question, or was there something more specific you wanted to know?

CaffeineSam 06-07-2008 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frpe82 (Post 1827619)
Yeah. The diesel engines had the same gearboxes as the B230FT/FK of the same year. There is nothing different.

They did however favour the taller gearings available.

Did that answer your question, or was there something more specific you wanted to know?

Thank you, that's all I wanted to know, and is exactly what I thought !

AlizeE 06-08-2008 10:39 AM

But they won't fit redblocks, since the bellhousing aren't the same, no ?

2fast242gt 06-08-2008 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlizeE (Post 1829985)
But they won't fit redblocks, since the bellhousing aren't the same, no ?

:rofl: noobert, this tranny IS FROM A REDBLOCK>:-(

TheJoyOfSix 06-08-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlizeE (Post 1829985)
But they won't fit redblocks, since the bellhousing aren't the same, no ?

Indeed, M90's have integral bellhousings so a diesel M90 will fit a D24 and a D24 only, likewise a redblock one only fits a redblock and a whiteblock only a whiteblock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2fast242gt (Post 1830161)
:rofl: noobert, this tranny IS FROM A REDBLOCK>:-(

But not exclusively a redblock as it came in two other flavours - who is the noob now..........:-P

soaklay1234 06-26-2008 09:47 PM

Hi, does anyone know when DBS is supposed to be back and running? or how long it's been down? I am also wondering how much an M90 typically runs in cost by itself, then how much for shipping? And am I right that perhaps the best combo would be to have the redblock M90 with the H2 internals? Not that this is the best place for accurate info, but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_M90_transmission basically says that towards the bottom of the page, plus the ratio's in the H2 are best if you ask me. Also is it true they are made by Getrag? I have a '98 B230FT block thats only had AMSOIL used since day one with 100K on it and a 16v head with 130K and I plan to build this engine professionally and am shooting for about 600hp (I know it may seem far-fetched) and I'd like to stick with Volvo components, but will the M90 take that? Does anyone know about how much it can take? I've heard about 500hp? Otherwise I suppose I could go with a supra tranny or something, but I really don't want to stray from Volvo. Any suggestions? Thanks -Steve

Asleeper 06-29-2008 06:51 PM

Your probably going to end up spending a total of $1500 for the m90 and related parts, lh2.4 flywheel, clutch disk and PP. While the m90 is a strong transmission and probably stronger than a T-5, your going to end up breaking transmissions if 500+ hp is your goal. In your case I would go with a T-5 since its going to be alot cheaper(and easier) to replace should you break one.

soaklay1234 07-03-2008 12:21 PM

Ok, well how about the Getrag 262? Looks like I can pick one of those up for about $500 and then get the conversion kit for about another $500. They can take the power it looks like, thats what this guy is doing: http://www.hilmersson-racing.com Besides, 600hp is just a goal, wheather or not I actually get there, I don't really care, it's still alot more power than is necessary, ESPECIALLY since I want this thing to be street legal and all that. I'd be happy with between 400-500hp, and I actually think that where I'll end up, simply because I don't really want to wear anything out too soon, there will be alot of MY time and money spent on this after all and I don't feel like having to constantly replace things. Otherwise, will an M90 with the H2 internals still start getting weak around 500hp does anyone know? Maybe I could just do that swap and not have to worry about any conversion kits or custom brackets?

soaklay1234 07-03-2008 12:29 PM

Oh yeah, for anyone who lives over there in Sweden or...Anywhere in Europe: Can you just walk into a junkyard and grab what you need or do the junkyard people do it for you? There's a junkyard in my area where you can walk back to all the cars and pick your own parts, which REALLY comes in handy for making sure you get everything. Like many people, I want to travel, and again like many people, I want to travel Europe. I've planned for years now that when I do, if I don't already have a transmission, I'm going to take a day out of my vacation to rip one out of a car in a junkyard over there. Can you do that over there or don't they let you anymore for liability issues?

frpe82 07-03-2008 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soaklay1234 (Post 1875971)
Oh yeah, for anyone who lives over there in Sweden or...Anywhere in Europe: Can you just walk into a junkyard and grab what you need or do the junkyard people do it for you? There's a junkyard in my area where you can walk back to all the cars and pick your own parts, which REALLY comes in handy for making sure you get everything. Like many people, I want to travel, and again like many people, I want to travel Europe. I've planned for years now that when I do, if I don't already have a transmission, I'm going to take a day out of my vacation to rip one out of a car in a junkyard over there. Can you do that over there or don't they let you anymore for liability issues?

In Sweden the people at the junkyard does it for you. No pick-n-pull here.

EDIT:// Oh, and the M90H2 probably gives up at 450 or something. But it is the torque that kills it, not the HP.

aerocorey 07-28-2008 08:12 PM

What happens if I try running a dogdish using a clutch kit for an 850?

http://www.fcpgroton.com/product-exe...category_id/85


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