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Old 05-28-2009, 07:03 PM   #326
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Old 05-28-2009, 07:36 PM   #327
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Hey Fred...a couple of things for the first post, perhaps...

Firstly, the reversing light switch is the same as for the M45, M46 and M47. No need to buy a brand new replacement at $40+ if it breaks. I found that out after I sheared the top off my M56 one, and spent the cash...and chopped the original plug off the loom...

Secondly....no love for the Diesel M90 there ;)

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Old 05-29-2009, 03:13 AM   #328
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And I said this before in another thread: Some M46 gearbox cross members are the same as the M90 one....
You can change that as well in your first post.
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:16 AM   #329
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So M56's newer than '95 use something else, but it's ok for all years of M90?

I sometimes get the feeling volvo just makes this stuff up as they go along...
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yeah.... same here. first the ....645 oil was for M90/M56 etc, aka 95+. now ....645 is for everything until 1995 (M90, M46, M56 etc), and the .....745 is for everything after that date. I think someone is having a lot of fun somewhere in Sweden, changing oil specifications and other stuff "just because he can".
Both yes and no...

The 645 oil have been used for quite some time, and the first generation of M90 boxes were suppose to use that oil as well (with a manufacture date up to early/mid '96). When the second generation M90 boxes came out (and some other FWD boxes), the oil specification got changed.

The newer boxes should only use the 745 oil, and not the 645 oil.

Even though the 645 oil is for the older M90 boxes, the recommendation is to use the newer 745 oil even in the older gearboxes nowadays.
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:19 AM   #330
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Hey Fred...a couple of things for the first post, perhaps...

Firstly, the reversing light switch is the same as for the M45, M46 and M47. No need to buy a brand new replacement at $40+ if it breaks. I found that out after I sheared the top off my M56 one, and spent the cash...and chopped the original plug off the loom...
They don't offer any reverse light switches with original plugs for any gearbox here in Sweden now. They have been phased out. If you order a switch for an M46 or an M59 or whatever, you will still get the newest switch + a new plug and crimp connections.
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Old 05-29-2009, 06:19 AM   #331
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And I said this before in another thread: Some M46 gearbox cross members are the same as the M90 one....
You can change that as well in your first post.
I will do that later today if I haven't already changed it a while ago. I will have to check.
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:09 PM   #332
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The newer boxes should only use the 745 oil, and not the 645 oil.

Even though the 645 oil is for the older M90 boxes, the recommendation is to use the newer 745 oil even in the older gearboxes nowadays.
But, it says all years of M90 right on the bottle...
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Old 05-30-2009, 12:45 PM   #333
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The reversing light switch is the same as for the M45, M46 and M47.
How does that hook up anyway.. mine still doesnt work (we also redid the wiring but no worky)
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Old 05-31-2009, 08:13 AM   #334
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But, it says all years of M90 right on the bottle...
That was probably written before the 745 oil was offered as the better oil.
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Old 06-01-2009, 06:45 PM   #335
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They don't offer any reverse light switches with original plugs for any gearbox here in Sweden now. They have been phased out. If you order a switch for an M46 or an M59 or whatever, you will still get the newest switch + a new plug and crimp connections.
Sure...but it means the pool of boxes you can pull an original switch from is much larger than you might otherwise think

I believe the switch grounds the feed from the lights. The ones on Ryan's 740 don't work either, so I may not be the best person to ask

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Old 06-09-2009, 06:03 PM   #336
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:03 AM   #337
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Old 08-04-2009, 06:41 AM   #338
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When installing the m90 in a 240, what kind of driveshaft (right word?) is best too use?
If i am not completely wrong you either have to shorten or lengthen it anyway(or make a spacer, which i want to avoid if possible), but what do you do with the mounting to the tunnel/floor(the one with the bearing inside the rubber thing)?
Make a new custom one?

Hopefully some of you understand what i mean, even though my writing isn't that good
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:40 PM   #339
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I would either use a standard 240 item and adjust the length, or use a 7/900 series propshaft / driveshaft (yes, it's the right word ) with this conversion: http://www.rsphysse.anu.edu.au/~amh1...ng_upgrade.htm

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Old 08-04-2009, 05:28 PM   #340
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I made a nice comparison picture of the difference between the Redblock M90 and the Diesel M90. The one on the left is for the redblock and the one on the right is a Diesel one.



The most obvious way to recognize a Diesel one is that it's covered in inches of greasy crap and the red and whiteblock ones aren't The Diesel one also has a different driveshaft and flange. It has, just like the whiteblock M90, a round 4 bolt flange instead of a triangular shaped flange with 3 bolt holes and doesn't use a rubber hardy disk but has a normal cardan. The flanges are interchangable though. I swapped them on my M90's as I don't have a redblock varient driveshaft but do have a diesel one. It all fits and is now mounted under my car.

This is a diesel driveshaft compared to the redblock M46 one:


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Old 08-05-2009, 09:51 AM   #341
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Would a flat-surfaced lh2.4 dog dish flywheel work with a M90 set-up on a redblock? See this thread http://forums.turbobricks.com/showthread.php?t=177742
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Old 08-05-2009, 02:10 PM   #342
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They're just taking chunks out of the sides...? Sure, that'll work. A flat flywheel with LH2.4 timing marks and a suitable clutch would work too.

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Old 08-05-2009, 02:14 PM   #343
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They're just taking chunks out of the sides...? Sure, that'll work. A flat flywheel with LH2.4 timing marks and a suitable clutch would work too.

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Yep, I like the idea of flattening the bugger as chunkifying it seems risky as John V. would point out (in length with many a 'fawk')
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Old 08-05-2009, 06:47 PM   #344
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I'd be tempted to jump straight to a billet piece at that point. Isn't there that place that Fred got his from in Sweden that does them for quite sensible money?

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Old 08-05-2009, 07:38 PM   #345
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yeah , i just need to chase him up again foggy !!

itll be a straight replacement for a dual mass flywheel with 850 r clutch for m90 cars .
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:40 PM   #346
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The Billet Flywheel for the whiteblocks is £250.68 Shipped within the UK.

I just enquired as my bank rang up and said you havent been buying any carparts for a few months.

I would imagine the Redblocks price isnt that far off.
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Old 08-05-2009, 07:42 PM   #347
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really ? , thats gone up a bit .

the redblock price is a bit cheaper than that , well i suppose with shipping itll not be much cheaper than that .
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:02 PM   #348
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Great write up

Many thanks to frpe82 for all his time and effort composing this article.
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Old 08-23-2009, 10:12 AM   #349
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How does that hook up anyway.. mine still doesnt work (we also redid the wiring but no worky)
I took the side of the reverse light harness off from the AW71 shifter and made an adapter. IIRC, it was the same plug end.

(this on a 90 765).
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Old 08-23-2009, 11:04 AM   #350
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you dont happend to have a pic of that
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