Just Can't Stay Away 1972 142S - Page 23

Tfrasca · 02-12-2018, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tfrasca

What's so hard about the upper arms?

FYI, I'm currently eating these words. Getting the upper bushings back in is a nightmare. The only thing I can think to try is cutting a section of pipe that will span the inner faces of the bushing surfaces, then notching it to fit over the spindle that has to be there. Otherwise you're just flexing the control arm instead of pushing the second bushing in. I recommend never doing the uppers.

Coupid · 02-13-2018, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Tfrasca

FYI, I'm currently eating these words. Getting the upper bushings back in is a nightmare. The only thing I can think to try is cutting a section of pipe that will span the inner faces of the bushing surfaces, then notching it to fit over the spindle that has to be there. Otherwise you're just flexing the control arm instead of pushing the second bushing in. I recommend never doing the uppers.

Thanks for the confirmation. I really might not do them. The lowers were 1000x worse looking but I have to take off the upper control arms to do the upper ball joints...

Tfrasca · 02-13-2018, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Coupid

Thanks for the confirmation. I really might not do them. The lowers were 1000x worse looking but I have to take off the upper control arms to do the upper ball joints...

Interesting. My lowers actually looked alright, but the uppers were dry rotted and the rubber literally crumbled out. But if your uppers look ok, just skip the bushings. You can pull the arm and leave the bushings intact.

sksmith · 02-13-2018, 09:38 AM

They were a PITA, for sure, but if you can do the lower's, you can do the uppers.
If I recall, I did get a kit for doing uppers. They are like older GM's, with the a-arm shaft.
Dangerkitty, I'm surprised that the shop didn't have the shims. Again, they look like the shims on my old Buick Wildcat, which are standard old shims. Hell, Harbor Freight sells a kit with several sizes.
Steve

Coupid · 03-21-2018, 10:36 PM

Quick update. The second upper ball joint is on its way from VP!

Also decided to replace the spark plugs since they survived the pre-fuel pressure regulator life. Glad I did...

emem1160 · 03-22-2018, 06:19 PM

read entire thread, never knew much about these 140s till now. fun car for you non-salters. drive straight and careful and keep up the good work

Coupid · 03-22-2018, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by emem1160

read entire thread, never knew much about these 140s till now. fun car for you non-salters. drive straight and careful and keep up the good work

Thanks for the kind words! Glad the thread was informative.

Coupid · 03-31-2018, 10:15 PM

Quick no photo update.

rewired the tach with black wire since for some reason I used green when installing the GT cluster.The green looked silly to me. Also properly sorted out the connection at the coil

Found a huge exhaust leak before the first muffler. The pipe wasn't in all the way so the expansion cut part was a huge hole. This involved hours of rolling around under the car and trying to wiggle the pipe in and out of the header. Very annoying but much improved. Still have a few more leaks down there. would benefit from some welding instead of c clamps.

Coupid · 04-02-2018, 11:44 PM

My good friend got tired of looking at this combo in his garage and graciously gave me a great deal so I can hopefully make something out of it.

B234 head with a B230 block and T5!

Hoping the "93" means 1993?

Here is the T5

This will be a long term project. Luckily the B20 and M40 are doing fine so I can piece together everything to make this into my dream car. Plan is to keep it NA, use a lot of Yoshifab magic and MS. My wife's cousin has an MS2 setup that he was planning to put on a BMW 2002 that he just sold so I will probably go that route for engine management.

Tfrasca · 04-03-2018, 10:48 AM

If you go NA, please rig up some ITBs.

Coupid · 04-03-2018, 11:23 AM

I would love DCOEs or ITBs but there doesn’t seem to be a manifold to make it happen. Well, aside from the $500 sheet metal one on ebay

MoCounselor · 04-03-2018, 04:47 PM

I think that there are manifolds available in the motherland...? (I've seen a few b234 cars on insta with itb's on them.

itb-volvo · 04-03-2018, 04:48 PM

There is a intake out there somewhere. I know this isn't much help but on one of the FB groups someone posted a link to one. I tried to find it for you but was not able to find it. If I end up finding it I'll send it your way.

hiperfauto · 04-03-2018, 05:44 PM

Here ya go.

https://www.acm.se/en/product/intake-manifold-48-mm-16v

https://shop.klracing.se/sv/artiklar...2-2/index.html

itb-volvo · 04-03-2018, 06:48 PM

You the man.

Coupid · 04-03-2018, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by itb-volvo

There is a intake out there somewhere. I know this isn't much help but on one of the FB groups someone posted a link to one. I tried to find it for you but was not able to find it. If I end up finding it I'll send it your way.

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Originally Posted by MoCounselor

I think that there are manifolds available in the motherland...? (I've seen a few b234 cars on insta with itb's on them.

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Originally Posted by hiperfauto

Here ya go.

https://www.acm.se/en/product/intake-manifold-48-mm-16v

https://shop.klracing.se/sv/artiklar...2-2/index.html

Thanks guys, those look like a good option. Previously all I could find was this thing:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Volvo-B234-...vip=true&rt=nc

That being said it would be hard to justify going that route given the deal I can get on MS2.

But then there is the sound lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL1Hdvy7dc4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyzQqdREem4

Tfrasca · 04-05-2018, 10:17 AM

Yeah, I'd go with ITBs from a liter bike and MS. It'd take some adapting, but there's no way I'd do all that work and still have carbs.

eBay ITB

Coupid · 04-05-2018, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tfrasca

Yeah, I'd go with ITBs from a liter bike and MS. It'd take some adapting, but there's no way I'd do all that work and still have carbs.

eBay ITB

There's another interesting idea.

From what I am reading, since I don't plan to put a turbo on the engine the freed up space from mounting the engine upright isn't needed. I could mount the engine slanted, use an M47 (with some transmission tunnel cutting) and a readily available B230 intake might just clear the brake booster?

Tfrasca · 04-05-2018, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Coupid

There's another interesting idea.

From what I am reading, since I don't plan to put a turbo on the engine the freed up space from mounting the engine upright isn't needed. I could mount the engine slanted, use an M47 (with some transmission tunnel cutting) and a readily available B230 intake might just clear the brake booster?

But you'd need a B234 intake, and aren't those a bit longer?

77volvo245 · 04-05-2018, 09:01 PM

http://www.unikracing.com/eng/volvo.html#

Tfrasca · 04-05-2018, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 77volvo245

http://www.unikracing.com/eng/volvo.html#

DAMN.

Coupid · 04-05-2018, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tfrasca

DAMN.

Damn is right.

77volvo245 · 04-05-2018, 11:37 PM

We are planning on running a cosworth intake modified the flange to a 16v . should clear the brake booster

AndrewNance · 04-06-2018, 11:12 AM

If it needs it, you could just shorten the b234 intake like people do for 240s. I know this is 8v but mounting the engine slanted seems to leave a really good amount of space between the head and brake booster.

Tfrasca · 04-06-2018, 11:31 AM

Oh wow, I didn't realize clearance was that good with the engine slanted. Definitely do that, Colin.

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hiperfauto The Librarian Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: So Cal	Here ya go. https://www.acm.se/en/product/intake-manifold-48-mm-16v https://shop.klracing.se/sv/artiklar...2-2/index.html __________________ 240 Alcantara Shift Boot Cover (164 & 72- 140 too) Rare, Race & R-Sports Parts Colored B/S Brake Hoses 140/160 and more Volvo Advertising Stuff -

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AndrewNance Amateur hour! Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Winston-Salem, NC	If it needs it, you could just shorten the b234 intake like people do for 240s. I know this is 8v but mounting the engine slanted seems to leave a really good amount of space between the head and brake booster. __________________ '67 122 - b230, t5, 8.8 Feedback

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02-13-2018, 09:38 AM	#554
sksmith Board Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Back in St. Louis, MO	They were a PITA, for sure, but if you can do the lower's, you can do the uppers. If I recall, I did get a kit for doing uppers. They are like older GM's, with the a-arm shaft. Dangerkitty, I'm surprised that the shop didn't have the shims. Again, they look like the shims on my old Buick Wildcat, which are standard old shims. Hell, Harbor Freight sells a kit with several sizes. Steve

03-21-2018, 10:36 PM	#555
Coupid Board Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA	Quick update. The second upper ball joint is on its way from VP! Also decided to replace the spark plugs since they survived the pre-fuel pressure regulator life. Glad I did...

03-22-2018, 06:19 PM	#556
emem1160 Board Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicagoland	read entire thread, never knew much about these 140s till now. fun car for you non-salters. drive straight and careful and keep up the good work

03-31-2018, 10:15 PM	#558
Coupid Board Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA	Quick no photo update. rewired the tach with black wire since for some reason I used green when installing the GT cluster.The green looked silly to me. Also properly sorted out the connection at the coil Found a huge exhaust leak before the first muffler. The pipe wasn't in all the way so the expansion cut part was a huge hole. This involved hours of rolling around under the car and trying to wiggle the pipe in and out of the header. Very annoying but much improved. Still have a few more leaks down there. would benefit from some welding instead of c clamps.

04-02-2018, 11:44 PM	#559
Coupid Board Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA	My good friend got tired of looking at this combo in his garage and graciously gave me a great deal so I can hopefully make something out of it. B234 head with a B230 block and T5! Hoping the "93" means 1993? Here is the T5 This will be a long term project. Luckily the B20 and M40 are doing fine so I can piece together everything to make this into my dream car. Plan is to keep it NA, use a lot of Yoshifab magic and MS. My wife's cousin has an MS2 setup that he was planning to put on a BMW 2002 that he just sold so I will probably go that route for engine management.

04-03-2018, 10:48 AM	#560
Tfrasca Board Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ben Lomond, CA	If you go NA, please rig up some ITBs.

04-03-2018, 11:23 AM	#561
Coupid Board Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Santa Barbara, CA	I would love DCOEs or ITBs but there doesn’t seem to be a manifold to make it happen. Well, aside from the $500 sheet metal one on ebay

04-03-2018, 04:47 PM	#562
MoCounselor Board Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Midwest, USA	I think that there are manifolds available in the motherland...? (I've seen a few b234 cars on insta with itb's on them.

04-03-2018, 04:48 PM	#563
itb-volvo Board Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: P-town Or	There is a intake out there somewhere. I know this isn't much help but on one of the FB groups someone posted a link to one. I tried to find it for you but was not able to find it. If I end up finding it I'll send it your way.

04-03-2018, 06:48 PM	#565
itb-volvo Board Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: P-town Or	You the man.

04-05-2018, 10:17 AM	#567
Tfrasca Board Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ben Lomond, CA	Yeah, I'd go with ITBs from a liter bike and MS. It'd take some adapting, but there's no way I'd do all that work and still have carbs. eBay ITB

04-05-2018, 11:37 PM	#573
77volvo245 Board Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Portland Oregon	We are planning on running a cosworth intake modified the flange to a 16v . should clear the brake booster

04-06-2018, 11:31 AM	#575
Tfrasca Board Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Ben Lomond, CA	Oh wow, I didn't realize clearance was that good with the engine slanted. Definitely do that, Colin.