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122s - Heater Box (parts needed)

Red Amazon

Red Amazon

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I recently dismantled an extra heater box and bead blasted it- It is a shelf project to restore, inbetween other projects. When I disassembled that box, I may have been too ancious. - I trashed most of those Delrin bushings that act as seals along the shafts of those vent flaps. Afterwards I asked how smart that was... I might be able to find something, but I doubt it.

So I at least thought I would ask here- if someone has a source. I have a local fastener place I may try (it's on my list). Right now I am not confident and I am thinking of possible alternatives. So often projects with this car requires alternatives, but those often work out beutifully, and that's why I have this car.

In the meantime, does anyone possibly have a source for those?
 
The bushings were never available as a replacement part. Also, the vent flaps weren't designed to be removed. Either 3D print some new ones or get a good used heater box.

When we rebuilt them we would strip all the removable parts off and bead blast them with the flaps in place. By manipulating the flaps you can get to most of the surfaces.

Unfortunately we scrapped all of the heater boxes when we closed our shop. We had to scrap a lot of used parts because our storage unit was full and couldn't afford another unit for parts we rarely sold.
 
Delrin is machinable, what shape are the original bushings? If it's just a cylinder with a hole through it that's pretty easy to make.
 
VP... (no way). (Maybe SKANDIX, but that's the one place I have not looked yet).

I still have a good (decent) box in the car. I just got in a hurry with this one (my spare). -The guy who does all of my bead blasting...for a song... is about to retire. So I have been busy getting every shelf project that needs that, over to him, before he closes his doors forever.

I talk/correspond to/with Joe, periodically (last week- correspondence). I think he just got back in town. He probably only wants to sell an entire box. That's a realistic assumption.

"Delrin is machinable, what shape are the original bushings? If it's just a cylinder with a hole through it that's pretty easy to make". Yes... possibly...? I had not thought of that yet. I thought that is might be something that is maybe just one step beyond a McMaster Carr search.

(Khrrck)- I would have to measure it. I think that of the 4 (?) or 6 that are there, I managed to get one off, fairly whole. That was going to be my reference part to search with.

Maybe we can follow up a bit later. On my AMAZON clipboard I have more than a few projects ahead of this. (1) Finishing up some fuel lines (fuel pump). A front end alignment. Preparing a driveshaft for installing a rebuilt M41, etc. (-maybe lightening and balancing an extra flywheel on the shelf, while I'm in there with that instal)... I have more than a few detailed projects ahead of this. My sandblast guy retiring made it into an unplanned project that I will eventually have to finish, just to keep my workspace clear.
 
- That's good to know (Jack). That might be an application for me to consider with the other (stil intact, in the car)...box.

I must note, and I may have noted it to you before- I really like the work that you do (Jack), but my aprehension towards powdercoating is that when it chips.... If it chips.... That just sucks. I really dislike powdercoated wheels, because they always get chipped... Then you have to bead blast with questionable success. -Surely a lot of work.

For me, powdercaoting has it's place. That box might be a good place for it (?). -Thank you.
 
I have some chipped (powder coated) Ford rims (?) and I will have to live with that. I also recall that those rims were coated, and the person coating them, missed all the nooks and crannys that are now full of rust. (-Someone else coated those for me).

- I know you have the benefit of doing most of that prep and coating work yourself (access). You can assure things get done well, correctly. I am one of the (probably) many here who are envious of that fact- That you can do, or have access to, the facilities to accomplish such work. Sending things out sucks, for that lone fact -that sometimes someone else does not fulfill a detail, as if it were their own. Assuming they have standards that might even meet my own. At least with my bead blasting guy, if I see something missed, I can go away or politely point it out to him for a touch up.

What I (often) prefer about paint is that I can get the right color, pretty easily- I know that you have access to a lot of options for getting a color you like with powder- (I've seen/read that. It's pretty amazing -to me). Two, if paint turns out wrong...for some reason... I can easily do it over. - I like options, rough drafts, sketchs.

If I had the access that you have to such facilities, I might eventually change my preference.
 
Yeah if the bushing is just a cylinder with a hole through it then you could make a decent replacement by just taking a Delrin bar of correct diameter (Mcmaster stocks Delrin blanks), cutting a slice of correct thickness off and then drilling a hole through it. Even if it's not a commonly available stock diameter, that would just be a minute or two of lathe work to turn down the next size up.

But - if they aren't perfectly round then of course it no longer becomes a simple operation to make them.

3d printing like cwdodson mentions would work just fine too.
 
I ordered the bushings through my local dealership - this might be simpler/quicker/cheaper than GCP.

I had initially planned to use one of the panels on a customer 122 build but ended up tucking the relays out of sight under the dash, so I haven't yet put one into use. Really a very nice piece.

If you're interested, I'll have a whole lot of pics of the car on my website in a week or so. Until then, some of them are on FB: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3284932941742628&type=3

Cheers!
 
volvorelix said:
I ordered the bushings through my local dealership - this might be simpler/quicker/cheaper than GCP.

I had initially planned to use one of the panels on a customer 122 build but ended up tucking the relays out of sight under the dash, so I haven't yet put one into use. Really a very nice piece.

If you're interested, I'll have a whole lot of pics of the car on my website in a week or so. Until then, some of them are on FB: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3284932941742628&type=3

Cheers!
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Bushing: I agree, and I may just get them from the local, or nearest dealer. I was just happy to see them show up in a GCP search.

Relay Panel: I will look forward to seeing that (the panels on your web page. I designed those so I could just squeeze them onto the front right inner fender wing. It is a tight fit, but a functional fit, as long as you have gone to an alternator. I finally wired my horn and hope to get the Overdrive in and wired before the end of the New England season.

-I do not do social media and it won't let me in to see your work on facebook unless I join- no thanks (I do not want to pay for the internet. It was supposed to be free, for the people). ....And I am now retired. So I am therefore very happy to really not have to need it. - (sorry for my politics? ).

I was so happy you got those panels from me. It's a bit of an honor. - I so admire your work.

Someone (two people) was asking me for one just after you bought those. I still have the cardboard prototype (CAD file- Cardboard Aided Design), even though the guy who made them has passed away.

I have to clean out a storage unit soon. I'm hoping maybe I saved an extra panel there, putting one other one aside for maybe another car (?), someday, but I doubt that. It is time to clean up the parts shelves.

Cheers,


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I don't have all of them up yet, but photos of the 1967 122 project are on the shop site:

www.swedishrelics.com

1967-122S

This 1967 122 arrived with some newer bits installed - a leather interior, relatively new paint, widened steel wheels and fresh tires but beneath this veneer was a neglected and tired old car with...
www.swedishrelics.com
 
YES- I spent a good chunk of time looking at your site again, and making notes of that project and what I saw there- making screen saves, notes, etc. And I saw those grommets on the heater box too. (+)

That now looks like a pretty valuable 122s. I was just trying to imagine how much fun it would be to own such a car. It's inspiring.

- Respectfully, I don't want to suck up your time asking questions, but were those engine cylinders sleeved? I was imagining that there may be a greater accuracy/precision in honing a sleeve than the cast iron block cylinder wall (?).
 
Red Amazon said:
- Respectfully, I don't want to suck up your time asking questions, but were those engine cylinders sleeved? I was imagining that there may be a greater accuracy/precision in honing a sleeve than the cast iron block cylinder wall (?).
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Cast iron is very dimensionally stable. Usually you only sleeve if you need to make the bore smaller or to reinforce/repair blocks like aluminium.
 
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