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89’ 245 2.4 stalling issue

I was told today that the flywheel was installed incorrectly. Hopefully this is the end of my problems and I can finally have a ‘turnkey’ car.
 
I doubt it. If the timing was off by 45° then the car wouldn't run, that's halfway of a piston stroke. The shop that's working on the car is clearly incompetent or else they would've gotten it sorted right quickly.
 
That's what I thought. I am doubting the people you have working on it as well. I truly don't think the car would run at all with the flywheel on wrong though please correct me if I am wrong
 
OVERDRIVE said:
I doubt it. If the timing was off by 45° then the car wouldn't run, that's halfway of a piston stroke. The shop that's working on the car is clearly incompetent or else they would've gotten it sorted right quickly.
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They will run, horribly. If the car runs and drives at all I doubt the flywheel is installed incorrectly. It would be easy to tell by just using a timing light on the engine.
 
Good, now enjoy what that scumbag tried to pass off on you. That definitely confirms its not something knocked loose in shipping
 
Tyezye said:
They thought so too. Guess what? I just picked it up and the freaking car drives like never before.
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Great!!! Hopefully it will keep running well for many years to come.

Did the shop explain any more about the "flywheel was installed incorrectly"? Maybe they left off the centering bushing, or maybe the retention plate? It never would have run if the flywheel was rotated by 1, of 8, bolt holes.
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bobxyz said:
Great!!! Hopefully it will keep running well for many years to come.

Did the shop explain any more about the "flywheel was installed incorrectly"? Maybe they left off the centering bushing, or maybe the retention plate? It never would have run if the flywheel was rotated by 1, of 8, bolt holes.
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Yes, they will run. I know of two different people that installed their flywheel one bolt off. Almost any engine will run that far out of time. They run terrible, however, they will run.

I’m going to guess that it was put on so that the engine was retarded 45°. If it was advanced 45° it be very difficult to get it to turn over.
 
Here’s a section of the invoice that they sent me.

They called me to tell me they found the issue and I had approved to do the repair but before I got off the phone I had mentioned the rear main seal was leaking oil and he addressed that with no additional charge.

The car is alive and I feel a lot better about the situation. RBS! If you’re reading this… thanks for absolutely not doing shit to help me. I’m $10k in and finally have something worth maybe $5k because of the amount of rust and brittle shit you sent me. Appreciate the ArmorAll bro! I’ll keep it going from here and hope that I don’t have to come to this section to ask for help but I do appreciate everyone being so cool here. Much love everybody!
 
OK, the flywheel was off by 45degrees, I stand corrected when I said it would never run. But being that far off would give a really bad idle, frequent stalling, and gutless in traffic.

It must be an amazing difference now that it's assembled correctly. :cool:

In case the image of the invoice disappears in the future, it says:
"pulled transmission and found flywheel indexed wrong.(out of time). installed rear main seal and
reinstalled flywheel in correct position and reinstalled transmission. started vehicle and runs great."

Versus an earlier RBS quote from facebook:
"As you may have seen in another thread posted we had an upset buyer from an eBay vehicle sale of a 1989 240 Wagon. Before we had the car transported we had taken it for a test drive and I personally oversaw it and made sure the idle was fine and went through every gear and was driven on the highway to ensure it's road worthiness."
 
bobxyz said:
Versus an earlier RBS quote from facebook:
"As you may have seen in another thread posted we had an upset buyer from an eBay vehicle sale of a 1989 240 Wagon. Before we had the car transported we had taken it for a test drive and I personally oversaw it and made sure the idle was fine and went through every gear and was driven on the highway to ensure it's road worthiness."
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I bet the damn delivery driver moved the flywheel, just to fuck with OP.
 
"Runs, even drives somewhat, with flywheel 45 off." I've run into that on the forums (never with personal experience) several times over the years, chalking that up to the amazing EZK. I think that was partially due to one poster claiming the timing light indicated normal at idle. Enough times to include careful suggestions to count 13 holes with finger in sensor hole while turning crankshaft backward from #1 TDC. (remove all the plugs first and go slow!) Then later, I looked once under an automatic and could see the index through the bell housing holes, that should line up with the starter at TDC.

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Tyezye said:
Here’s a section of the invoice that they sent me.

They called me to tell me they found the issue and I had approved to do the repair but before I got off the phone I had mentioned the rear main seal was leaking oil and he addressed that with no additional charge.

The car is alive and I feel a lot better about the situation. RBS! If you’re reading this… thanks for absolutely not doing shit to help me. I’m $10k in and finally have something worth maybe $5k because of the amount of rust and brittle shit you sent me. Appreciate the ArmorAll bro! I’ll keep it going from here and hope that I don’t have to come to this section to ask for help but I do appreciate everyone being so cool here. Much love everybody!
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What I don't understand is why anyone would have bolted up a flywheel without having serviced the rear main seal while it was off. Well, anyone honest.
 
bobxyz said:
OK, the flywheel was off by 45degrees, I stand corrected when I said it would never run. But being that far off would give a really bad idle, frequent stalling, and gutless in traffic.

It must be an amazing difference now that it's assembled correctly. :cool:

In case the image of the invoice disappears in the future, it says:
"pulled transmission and found flywheel indexed wrong.(out of time). installed rear main seal and
reinstalled flywheel in correct position and reinstalled transmission. started vehicle and runs great."

Versus an earlier RBS quote from facebook:
"As you may have seen in another thread posted we had an upset buyer from an eBay vehicle sale of a 1989 240 Wagon. Before we had the car transported we had taken it for a test drive and I personally oversaw it and made sure the idle was fine and went through every gear and was driven on the highway to ensure it's road worthiness."
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And run hot as hell. I bet the car could barely pull itself around.
 
bobxyz said:
OK, the flywheel was off by 45degrees, I stand corrected when I said it would never run. But being that far off would give a really bad idle, frequent stalling, and gutless in traffic.

It must be an amazing difference now that it's assembled correctly. :cool:

In case the image of the invoice disappears in the future, it says:
"pulled transmission and found flywheel indexed wrong.(out of time). installed rear main seal and
reinstalled flywheel in correct position and reinstalled transmission. started vehicle and runs great."

Versus an earlier RBS quote from facebook:
"As you may have seen in another thread posted we had an upset buyer from an eBay vehicle sale of a 1989 240 Wagon. Before we had the car transported we had taken it for a test drive and I personally oversaw it and made sure the idle was fine and went through every gear and was driven on the highway to ensure it's road worthiness."
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Did he post this recently? lol.. I guess I’m not surprised if he’s still defending himself. I told him the rear main seal was leaking day 3 and he was like ‘oh, that’s an easy fix.. 2 guys and a 2-3 hours to replace’

Car is running great still. I just need a bypass plate to get gear #4 working.

Today I replaced the corroded wires for the power locks, replaced all of the window scrapers and blocked the tube for the heater (idk, instructed by the mechanic to make the ac blow colder)

I bought this as a gift for my girlfriend because her previous car was totaled in a hit and run in front of our house. Things finally feel right and I’m just happy to move forward and to have a little project car.
 
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