Dual oil filter relocator...Multipule uses?

[gear whine]

so i have a dual oil filter relocation kit. the mount for the two oil filters has 4 holes, 2 in, 2 out so you can customize and be able to have more flexibility when your mounting it. weather to have the in and out both on one side or one on either side is up to you..

my question is this can i use the OTHER "out" hole to be used for the oil feed for my turbo? or will it cause bad flow and low/bad or high oil pressure by having two outs instead of one? will this cause bad pressure going into the turbo itself?

will it be better or worse for the oil feed if i have it in the relocator or just leave it in the block?

btw the way i will route it is off the block to the oil filters then to the oil cooler then back to the block. and i was thinking to use the other "out" for my oil feed and just blocking the hole in the block.

questions and comments, advice, knowledge anything, thank you.



edit: i tried posting a picture from my phone but i failed, here is the link to the kit i bought
http://store.summitracing.com/partd...&part=PRM-10795&N=700+400006+115&autoview=sku

 

[Gabe244]

If this works, it will be truly awesome for making +t's easier.

 

[gear whine]

If this works, it will be truly awesome for making +t's easier.

oh wow i didnt even think of that.

you would still have to drill a hole for the oil RETURN though...

but yeh in this case 1 hole is better than 2! haha

 

[Jerd]

You are on to something, do this, make it work, and let the people bow down.

 

[Gabe244]

Reckon you could use 2 kits connected together so you dont need an oil return hole at all?
EDIT: when you think about it, the oil has to flow to somewhere after it goes through the filter right? So couldnt the turbo return line rejoin into the line going from the filter to the block? Thereby getting oil to both the filter and turbo from the one oil filter hole in the block.

 

[BrickLove]

Return line needs to be low (Read: No) pressure or it won't drain properly and the turbo will leak and burn oil.

 

[John V outside agitator]

Jeeze, years ago we used this nice drawing as a guide for doing Kein Hawkinson's remeote filter and turbo feed. Nice cool oil right back from the oil cooler:

But I guess we fail FTL cause we didn't do 2 filters.

Photos are at Kevins site, I'll find that.
http://students.washington.edu/khawki02/july112004.jpg

Not the greatest photo but you can glimpse the filter head and the turbo feed

Very easy to do and easy access to filter and senders.

 

[Karl Buchka]

John, that filter holder with all the inlets/outlets, is that an available part? And what is the cut off valve for?

 

[BrickLove]

^I've got that diagram saved on my desktop. What does that filter adapter from?

 

[John V outside agitator]

^I've got that diagram saved on my desktop. What does that filter adapter from?

The thing in the drawing is a fancy schmantzy Ford Motorsport part. I have one and it is cast magmesium, has to be bolted down or it blows away

The Perma-cool single filter, dual inlet/outlet mount works fine.

 

[John V outside agitator]

John, that filter holder with all the inlets/outlets, is that an available part? And what is the cut off valve for?

The outlets are all specific sized like M10 x 1 for sender, that's done in the Perma-Cool thing with reducer bushings.
The ball valve and cable to the dash is to cut off oil feed to turbo so when a turbo blows, driver can cut oil feed and not pump all the oil overboard and finish a stage and get to service where the nice location and the slotted mounting holes makes for about a 9-11 minute hot turbo change.

Since they have lots of turbos, and can (could---for a while the rule was they got one spare turbo which had to be carried in the car! Sheeesh!) swap them and the turbo is dead, what the hell cut off the oil.

I've lost 2 3/4 quarts in 6 miles babying a badly blown turbo home. No mosquitoes for weeks.

 

[the poi]

Not the greatest photo but you can glimpse the filter head and the turbo feed

It is, in fact, possibly the worst photo.

 

[Karl Buchka]

The outlets are all specific sized like M10 x 1 for sender, that's done in the Perma-Cool thing with reducer bushings.
The ball valve and cable to the dash is to cut off oil feed to turbo so when a turbo blows, driver can cut oil feed and not pump all the oil overboard and finish a stage and get to service where the nice location and the slotted mounting holes makes for about a 9-11 minute hot turbo change.

Since they have lots of turbos, and can (could---for a while the rule was they got one spare turbo which had to be carried in the car! Sheeesh!) swap them and the turbo is dead, what the hell cut off the oil.

I've lost 2 3/4 quarts in 6 miles babying a badly blown turbo home. No mosquitoes for weeks.

That's very cool. Thanks.

So the filter mount in the diagram is really no more than an oil inlet, which feeds through the filter, then a split output to the turbo and engine? Is there any kind of pressure reducer orifice on the turbo feed outlet, or does it split evenly between the block and turbo?

 

[John V outside agitator]

That's very cool. Thanks.

So the filter mount in the diagram is really no more than an oil inlet, which feeds through the filter, then a split output to the turbo and engine? Is there any kind of pressure reducer orifice on the turbo feed outlet, or does it split evenly between the block and turbo?

Well there IS a restricter in the turbo oil feed inlet and that accomplishes the same thing.
I do it by selecting the fitting that gives me a -6 male for the hose and a 1/4 NPT i think on the turbo side.

 

[aplitz]

The dual remote kits do offer a great deal of flexability. We ran several of the Amsoil kits on trucks and equipment at my old job. On each of them we installed a small tap valve so we could pull out oil under pressure for oil analysis. On my 244, I used the two extra ports for oil pressure and oil temp, I plan to eventually run a cooler in line as well. Really, there are numerous possibilities.

 

[Hagar17]

can the same be achieved with a single filter relocate kit?

ie turbo oil feed?

 

[aplitz]

can the same be achieved with a single filter relocate kit?

ie turbo oil feed?

You could in theory T it in, but it would be less than ideal.

 

[gear whine]

Well there IS a restricter in the turbo oil feed inlet and that accomplishes the same thing.
I do it by selecting the fitting that gives me a -6 male for the hose and a 1/4 NPT i think on the turbo side.

this isnt nessecary for me right? since i am not running a ball bearing turbo currently...

i can just get lines made, hook it up, prime the system and go, yes?

Jeeze, years ago we used this nice drawing as a guide for doing Kein Hawkinson's remeote filter and turbo feed. Nice cool oil right back from the oil cooler:

But I guess we fail FTL cause we didn't do 2 filters.
Photos are at Kevins site, I'll find that.
Not the greatest photo but you can glimpse the filter head and the turbo feed
Very easy to do and easy access to filter and senders.

damit i forgot about that post you made a while ago, dur!

thanks for reminding me!

 

[John V outside agitator]

this isnt nessecary for me right? since i am not running a ball bearing turbo currently...

Well neither were Ford, or me in my cars, but running a -6 line like that SEEMS to have resulted in somewhat lower oil pressure than I would expect to see in a motor or two I've built so I look at the ID of the OEM feed line as a guide and go maybe one 1/16 up max.

i can just get lines made, hook it up, prime the system and go, yes?

Get the lines MADE UP!!!?? MADE UP!!!?????

Oh so you want to BUY made up hoses?!!!
Did you have POLIO as a small child?
You tooo GOOD TO MAKE YOUR OWN Hoses?

Why when I was your age we schlepped 5 miles in snow with NO SHOES just for the pleasure in making our own hoses and since we were so poor the neighborhood I was in was torn down to put up a slum, we had to use RE-USABLE fittings.

Like these:

Hose is trapped between the pointy bit shoved up the hose and the outer nut sen in this piccie:

Then when you decide that wasn't just the oh so perfect place to site the remote head, or the flake-monster skate boarder sends his board thru the oil cooler and you have to use another one of a different size, you unscrew the fittings and buy a fresh length of hose for a few bucks.


That is if you aren't too hoity-toity to work honest work slaving over a hot whizzer wheels for minutes at a time, yessiree, son 'at's wot I did when I wuz a wee lad!!
Yep whole minutes at a time, worked my fingers to the bone i did! It wus 'ard work, but it wuz 'onest!

(grumble mode on, shaking head in dismay) 'ave 'is 'oses made up!!?/ kids today!!! (/grumble mode off, shaking head in dismay)

damit i forgot about that post you made a while ago, dur!

thanks for reminding me!

That's OK.

 

[gear whine]

damn you old man, your the S***!

hahaha