Sway bar questions

[culberro]

You can still see a gangsta lean in this full race prepped car.

Body roll is fine within reason. What you don’t want is large tire alignment or suspension geometry changes from body roll. 240s are pretty consistent in that regard.

If you do the math out, a 240 has too much rear roll stiffness in pretty much any kind of front and rear stock component combination IF BALANCE IS YOUR TARGET. Some people prefer or require a looser characteristic, but you can't really tighten them up enough on stock components.

This. 240s actually unweight the inside tire a lot under cornering. The rear roll center is too high, and the rear roll stiffness from the springs is very low. So people add a large rear bar to counteract it… but it just makes it worse unless you’re on a very smooth road or track.

25f/16r

Say "No!" to rear IPD sway bars

This is a good starting point. I actually ran no rear bar and the 25mm front bar with stiff front springs to increase grip in the rear of the drift car . You know you’re doing it right when you can start bogging a 350hp engine while in drift.

 

[pinguin]

I'm sorry, I don't know what TABs means

It's the original diet cola.
Or trailing arm bushing

 

[Red]

It's the original diet cola.
Or trailing arm bushing

Ah, thanks lol

 

[2manyturbos]

Just buy yourself a set of 240 Turbo coupe/sedan bars and call it good. That improves the handling of any 240. For a wagon the IPD 25mm front bar with a stock 16mm 240 rear bar works well. daisywagon went from his 25/23 IPD bar set to running the 25mm front bar with a 16mm rear bar and the handling improved under hard cornering. So did his ability to put power to the ground under hard acceleration out of the corners.

You can see more of daisywagon's 240 in the Autocross thread on here.

www.turbobricks.com/index.php?threads/for-autocross-fans-show-your-stuff.344528/page-13

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[Red]

Just buy yourself a set of 240 Turbo coupe/sedan bars and call it good. That improves the handling of any 240. For a wagon the IPD 25mm front bar with a stock 16mm 240 rear bar works well. daisywagon went from his 25/23 IPD bar set to running the 25mm front bar with a 16mm rear bar and the handling improved under hard cornering. So did his ability to put power to the ground under hard acceleration out of the corners.

Now I wonder if I can ask them to sell me just the 25mm front bar and accessory hardware and use the spare $$$ for some Koni shocks.

 

[2manyturbos]

Now I wonder if I can ask them to sell me just the 25mm front bar and accessory hardware and use the spare $$$ for some Koni shocks.

They have sold single bars in the past. It wouldn't hurt to ask.

 

[Red]

As in fix your suspension bushings

Would you recommend poly bushings all around on the suspension or rubber? I've got a list of polys from FCP that I wanna get but I'm not to familiar with how it'll affect the daily-ability of it

 

[2manyturbos]

Would you recommend poly bushings all around on the suspension or rubber? I've got a list of polys from FCP that I wanna get but I'm not to familiar with how it'll affect the daily-ability of it

You can run poly in the front if you so desire. Do not put poly suspension bushings in the rear. It binds the rear suspension. Also, it wears out extremely fast. 10-20K miles and you will be replacing the poly because of slop in the bushings. It also makes the car ride harsh.

 

[HiSPL]

IPD won’t sell a single bar anymore. I tried.

It would open them up to being sued when someone puts on a massive rear bar and no front and sends it into a ditch for dorifto reasons.

 

[HiSPL]

You can run poly in the front if you so desire. Do not put poly suspension bushings in the rear. It binds the rear suspension. Also, it wears out extremely fast. 10-20K miles and you will be replacing the poly because of slop in the bushings. It also makes the car ride harsh.

I have full superpro poly up front and it is great. Not really much more NVH than stock.

I have Ben’s spherical bushings in trailing arms, but stock everything else.

I need to refresh my rear links pretty bad. Lots of clunking

 

[VB242]

I bought my 242 front bar separately from IPD but I had to call them. My wagon came with them.

 

[OVERDRIVE]

If you say you ran over a curb and damaged the front one you have maybe they'd sell you just a front.

 

[strykjärn]

You can still see a gangsta lean in this full race prepped car.

Cool video. I will enjoy seeing more of the vehicle and more.

 

[DET17]

Just buy yourself a set of 240 Turbo coupe/sedan bars and call it good. That improves the handling of any 240. For a wagon the IPD 25mm front bar with a stock 16mm 240 rear bar works well. daisywagon went from his 25/23 IPD bar set to running the 25mm front bar with a 16mm rear bar and the handling improved under hard cornering. So did his ability to put power to the ground under hard acceleration out of the corners.

RWC tried to show us the light years (decades) ago..... the OE Turbo bar setup is perfect for improved 245 street manners and better feel.

Big power being applied to the 2 series rear suspension is another matter altogether. But for relatively low power levels, I'd go with the factory 23/21 TURBO bars........

 

[Red]

RWC tried to show us the light years (decades) ago..... the OE Turbo bar setup is perfect for improved 245 street manners and better feel.

Big power being applied to the 2 series rear suspension is another matter altogether. But for relatively low power levels, I'd go with the factory 23/21 TURBO bars........

I'll probably post a WTB and see if someone has some to sell. I've been hesitant to try that avenue but maybe I shouldnt be.

 

[mikep]

I by far prefer the 23mm front bar with any improvement in spring rate over a 25mm on soft springs.
In the rear, 16 or (DOH! Edit: 19)

 

[Red]

I by far prefer the 23mm front bar with any improvement in spring rate over a 25mm on soft springs.
In the rear, 16 or 29.

29 or 19? If 19, I have OVERDRIVE getting me a shipping quote on 23/19 bars I do wanna get new springs, but I think I'd rather wait a bit and get BNE's coilovers. I don't know if the springs BNE use are gonna be super rough but... Adjustable and all.
Thanks all for the 2¢, y'all have saved me a s***t ton of cash so far

 

[HiSPL]

29 for that drift missile you’ve been dreaming about

 

[HiSPL]

Smash those 5 panel tail lights into the concrete for the insta

 

[Nagrom]

Your car already has sway bars doesn't it? Take your sway bar money and put it into the back suspension upgrades if you plan on doing coilovers and don't want to piss money into the wind.

Adjustable perches, shocks and springs




At this point the only stock suspension components I have installed on my 240 are the sway bars. There are better things to spend your money on.