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Chips today

baggins798 said:
Most chips on the market are rubbish (stoni, kl racing, redblockpowered), so I always encourage people to make their own chips because then you know exactly what's happening.
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Bit of a bold statement. Not everyone has the capability, experience or endeavour to make their own chips and just want something that works.

I admit I wasn't happy with TLAO's chips as they might have not met my setup very well (who knows what he programmed them for), but redblockpowered's chips improved my MPG a lot, AFR numbers and torque delivery throughout the whole RPM range, so what gives?
 
Hello!

This is an edited version of what I just wrote in my for sale thread but I am going to repost here so it's viewable for non members etc. Plus I'd like to think it is informative WRT chips, LH, custom tunes etc.

I don't think it's fair given your experience to characterize my stuff as "junk". Clearly you've poked around and I'm not just turning off all the failsafes in the ECU and letting it rip. A fair amount of time and thought has gone into this. What I sell obviously has limitations, in the way a stock tune or ANY canned tune of any kind does, for any application. I think this is probably the #1 misunderstanding about any kind of chip/canned tune I see, Volvos or otherwise. It's not magic and it's not one-size-fits-all. In the listing for these I was careful to note "The closer your car is to this setup (what the tune was developed for on a dyno and not the street), the better your results will be." As for how far you can stray from that and still get good results I have to rely on customer feedback, and pass that on to others. You guys are a lot more daring than I am (and I mean that in a nice way!)

I think a big part of successfully selling something like this is to be very clear about the intended use case - hence why I've got results and mod lists in my listings. Much like how a standard tune is for a standard car, my canned tunes have a specific "correct" setup. Plenty of stuff is largely similar - surely there aren't a ton of people opting for 2.5" exhausts like I have over 3" for example.

In almost all cases like you said in the other thread, yes a custom tune is better. How much time and money have you spent, for example, figuring out what EPROM burner to buy, what chips to buy, how to erase them? That only gets you to the point where you can START tuning. And even then without an emulator you're flying blind and simply guessing at what's being accessed inside the ECU. Anything like that and you're already spending more money than getting something from me (usually, obviously if you need ECUs you are spending more but it also comes with ECUs). Then you're reading about tuning EFI, installing a wideband, trying to figure out how to tell if your car is pulling timing, crawling into the pedal box to pull the EZK out of your 940 AGAIN FOR THE TENTH DAMN TIME THIS WEEK BECAUSE YOU MADE YOUR CAR RUN LIKE ASS. Have you saved any money? No, absolutely not. What about time? No. So if you're not looking to do something novel with your car I think the case for off the shelf chips makes a good bit of sense.
 
Can it be that the ostrich is out of date, I can't find a place where I can buy one???

Is there something new
 
baggins798 said:
Lancer, you use a chip programmer and its software (I use a TL866II+, here's the new version) to read/write the chips and save the bin file, then open it in TunerPro. After making adjustments, you save the file, boot up the programmer's software again, put a blank chip in the socket, select the file, and burn it.

For chips, a pack of 14 OTP 27c256 28 pin DIP chips from Farnell UK are readily available and quite cheap (~£4 each). The original chips are TI SMJ27c256-20JT 200ns EPROMs with a quartz window under the sticker, they can be erased with a UV light and reused. Other alternatives are AMD AM27C256, ST M27C256B, or TI TMS27C256, and maybe Winbond W27E257.

Most chips on the market are rubbish (stoni, kl racing, redblockpowered), so I always encourage people to make their own chips because then you know exactly what's happening.

This thread with my 'chip tuning for dummies' guide contains links to the software, the xdf files needed to use the software, and the fuel/ezk bin files if you wanted to use them for some reason:

Can anyone shed light on ezk/LH2.4 Chips - Volvo Owners Club Forum

Can anyone shed light on ezk/LH2.4 Chips 700/900 Series General
www.volvoforums.org.uk
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Sure, let me spend all the time and money I don't have on something that could easily go wrong via user error and end up costing even more! Yeah, no. You're like all the guys on LS1TECH telling people to tune their own setup. It's not for everyone.
 
Lancer1500 said:
Can it be that the ostrich is out of date, I can't find a place where I can buy one???

Is there something new
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yeah the ostrich I think is NLA. People have had success with Cobra RTP but those are also hard to get now with the whole Russia invasion thing. I am not sure of others.
 
Moates.net shut down in late 2022. Cobrartp.com no longer sells the simple emulators. I think Transtronics.com still offers the ROMulators and that they'll work with the TunerPro address tracing feature.

Lancer1500 - if you want to learn how an engine works in detail, and want to learn some tuning, you should get a basic aftermarket ECU (e.g. MicroSquirt). It's much easier to understand, to generate full logs, and to modify compared to using TunerPro with incomplete xdfs and very limited logging.

Otherwise, if your build is somewhat standard, contact redblockpowered and see if he has something dyno and market tested that's close to your setup.
 
Is there an PnP Adapter for the Lh, so I only have to wire the map, intake temerature and throttle position, oh and cam position with ignition
 
~5 years ago, the SST27SF256-70 chips I got off of ebay worked fine with a MiniPro TL866 programmer: https://turbobricks.com/index.php?threads/eeprom-burner.340001/page-2

The picture in the ebay link you posted is not the right chip, but the listed part number is OK.

AFAIK, there are no LH2.4/EZ116K PnP adapters or wiring harnesses available for aftermarket ECUs. (linuxman51 used to make these for MicroSquirt years ago, but not currently.)
 
bobxyz said:
~5 years ago, the SST27SF256-70 chips I got off of ebay worked fine with a MiniPro TL866 programmer: https://turbobricks.com/index.php?threads/eeprom-burner.340001/page-2

The picture in the ebay link you posted is not the right chip, but the listed part number is OK.

AFAIK, there are no LH2.4/EZ116K PnP adapters or wiring harnesses available for aftermarket ECUs. (linuxman51 used to make these for MicroSquirt years ago, but not currently.)
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I may be wrong, but I believe the female ECU connection is still available from mouser/digikey. That's about as good as it's gonna get.
 
Ya know LH 2.4 fuel puters are adaptive right? Dat means the puter will reprogram itself to run stoic... So unless you turn dat off in your custom chip bin program your selling, then the only thing you really need to do with your staged chips is eliminate AMM fuel cut max out and rev limit.. Unless you want bigger injectors and your injector constants messed with? TOLOAO used to say you gotta run the chip for 200 miles to let it learn. Ha.. NOw you want sum real custom chips? Order up my super duper LH 2.2 chips? Ask yourself how come all those experts don't sell those? You all never decrytped 8 bit satellite TV signals and it shows.. I am still looking for wanting the 983 LH 2.4.4.1 fuel bin, the last best one without the immobilizer... Got dat????
 
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